Wind in the willows

When men farts is smells of ugliness and putrefied mess
When ladies fart … scrap that ladies do not fart, they just perspire out rose scented fragrances.
That is what I believe in…
Yeah right whom am I kidding?
I fart, you fart everyone Farts. One thing we can’t escape in life. We all shit and we fart as well.

Fart is an ugly word, better to use pass gas - that is more eloquent and obviously more sociably accepting.
Now what is my hang up with passing gas Well it is passing gas and prayer..

Khalifa
O you who believe, do not observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) while intoxicated, so that you know what you are saying. Nor after sexual orgasm without bathing, unless you are on the road, traveling; if you are ill or traveling, or you had urinary or fecal-related excretion (such as gas), or contacted the women (sexually), and you cannot find water, you shall observe Tayammum (dry ablution) by touching clean dry soil, then wiping your faces and hands therewith. GOD is Pardoner, Forgiver.
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! Approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say,- nor in a state of ceremonial impurity (Except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body. If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For God doth blot out sins and forgive again and again.
Pickthal
O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter, nor when ye are polluted, save when journeying upon the road, till ye have bathed. And if ye be ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have touched women, and ye find not water, then go to high clean soil and rub your faces and your hands (therewith). Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.
Shakir
O you who believe! do not go near prayer when you are Intoxicated until you know (well) what you say, nor when you are under an obligation to perform a bath -- unless (you are) travelling on the road -- until you have washed yourselves; and if you are sick, or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth, then wipe your faces and your hands; surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving.
Sher Ali
O ye who believe ! go not near Prayer when you are not in full possession of your senses, until you know what you are saying, nor when you are unclean, except when you are travelling along a way, until you have bathed. And if you are ill or you are on a journey while unclean, or if one of you comes from the privy or you have touched women and you find no water, then betake yourselves to pure dust and wipe therewith your faces and your hands. Surely Allah is the Effacer of sins, Forgiving,
"Progressive Muslims"
O you who believe, do not come near the assembly while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor dirty, except for travellers, until you wash. And if you are ill or traveling or one of you has excretion or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water: then you shall make ablution with clean soil by wiping your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.

4:43 And 5:6
Khalifa
O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands (and arms) to the elbows; Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles. If ye are in a state of ceremonial impurity, bathe your whole body. But if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands, God doth not wish to place you in a difficulty, but to make you clean, and to complete his favour to you, that ye may be grateful.
Pickthal
O ye who believe! When ye rise up for prayer, wash you faces, and your hands up to the elbows, and lightly rub your heads and (wash) your feet up to the ankles. And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it. Allah would not place a burden on you, but He would purify you and would perfect His grace upon you, that ye may give thanks.
Shakir
O you who believe! when you rise up to prayer, wash your faces and your hands as far as the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you are under an obligation to perform a total ablution, then wash (yourselves) and if you are sick or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy, or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth and wipe your faces and your hands therewith, Allah does not desire to put on you any difficulty, but He wishes to purify you and that He may complete His favor on you, so that you may be grateful.
Sher Ali
O ye who believe ! when you stand up for Prayer, wash your faces, and your hands up to the elbows, and pass your wet hands over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you be unclean, purify yourselves by bathing. And if you are ill or you are on a journey while unclean, or one of you comes from the privy or you have touched women, and find not water, betake yourselves to pure dust and wipe therewith your faces and your hands. Allah desires not that HE should place you in a difficulty but HE desires to purify you and to complete HIS favour upon you, so that you may be grateful.
"Progressive Muslims"
O you who believe, if you rise to attend the assembly, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe you heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you are filthy, then become clean; and if you are ill or traveling or you have excreted, or you have sexually touched the women, and you could not find water, then you shall do ablution from clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands. God does not want to make any hardship over you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be appreciative.

****(Any parentheses are the translator’s own inference)*******

What we can see is that the translations differ slightly.
Though the whole picture is clear in what should be and not be done. But it is this matter of Passing GAS that still bugs me.
My mind is clear in what I do. But the issue is brought to mind again because as on my period One of the symptoms I suffer from is GAS. Before hand my stomach bloats up with gas that nothing will shift unless obviously the natural act of menstruation, which will then release the gas over the duration.
Not as with human complexities goes, I have no control over this gas, it just passes out as freely as it gets stored..
Mind you. It DOES NOT smell. Really! It doesn’t smell. No whiff of anything other than air
Besides my fart don’t smell of anything other than flowers and sprite. (Basically any perfume/ deodorant I keep on me in case it does)
Anyhow, my Period Fart does not smell. Never has and gw never will

So if I am afflicted with period fart over a course of lets say 5 days. And over these duration days I have to pray and I fart each time.

Before I go on let me clear another presumption
Prayer during period is ok for me…
There is nothing in the scripture that disallows it so I gather as we are all enjoined to pray- man and woman alike. It must be done. Blood or no blood, pain or no pain…

So lets deal with this from 2 angles, ablution which is required for prayer and prayer

The only direct mention of gas is via khalifa’s translation
Although it is a known practice to repeat ablution after farting and as I know it is because of what I have been taught and I guess as well through hearsay and “see what I do, do what I do” and also being shown by my father to cut the prayer and repeat the whole process after farting during prayer

I agree with re: ablution because it is the start for prayer and in my view any contamination re: preparation nullifies the ablution. Also the jury is still out there Re: farting during ablution though my own personal practice is to repeat ablution if the farting is before I start prayer

For the prayer itself is does not mention anything bar the intoxication and also the preparatory before it- which is the ablution…

I will guess/assume that farting during salat and repeating the whole salat it is one of the things that people say is Sunnah.

Now we all know my own opinions of that. (If I cant verify or ascertain proof I do not believe in It. Everything for me is instinct/inspiration and logic and God help me with inspiration/understanding and application)

So the example there is.
IF I started my prayer and I didn’t break the state of ablution. And I pass gas (which obviously don’t smell) what do I do

Also

the converse is the case IF I started my prayer but I didn’t break the state of ablution and I pass gas (that smells, but I cant reach my trusted perfume to blot out the smell) what do I do.

What I guess from my thinking is that when you are starting prayer everything is of insignificance because you are establishing contact with the creator. Once your mind is on God and praising God I guess you don’t really notice anything else or are aware of anything else
It is not like a telephone conversation where you dial and can cut the phone at any time you wish
So once the contact is made, earthly matters/earthly bodies are irrelevant hence I would rather continue with my prayers and finish it up. BUT I would not start another prayer i.e. afternoon/morning/evening without a new ablution. Generally out of preference for myself I go, new prayer new ablution - I guess because it forms my preparation and frame of mind for the prayer

Now if the fart causes me to loose concentration during my prayers - Re: smell to overpowering that I start focusing on the act of farting rather than on my prayers - then I guess I follow my conscience which rightfully tells me. “Fatima! You need to cut this and retry again” Then in that case I would go back out and re-do my ablution and restart my prayer to God.

As ever, God provides meaning and explanation. May God guide us to the right understanding, the right worship practices towards attaining salvation/redemption from Him.

To God belongs all Glory, Honour and Praise. In this life and in the hereafter. There is only One God. May God be glorified in all the worlds and universe

My lord, direct me to the right meaning, understanding and application of your words. Forgive me Lord if I forget or make a mistake. You alone do I worship and You alone do call for Help. Guide me Lord in your straight path.

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I remember i had written something earlier and i kept is.. i just found it tonight 30/05/09 so i thought to share it as it is still in the same thread and in fact was the original idea that came to mind...

From: me

Subject: prayer and farting, whats ur own view

To: some people

Date: Saturday, 16 August, 2008, 7:15 AM

right guys, before i proceed i must first say that the letter K on this Keyboard is missing so i may replace i wiith a big c (C) if it begins to bug me when i am in serious flow.

salam alaykum guys.

the topic today for contemplation is farting during salat.

now i remember a time when i was young and we went for congregational prayers in my dads friends hose and yes as truth be told i let one off when bowing down. this to my embarrassment caused a big commotion and resulted in the female populaion exclaiming loudly. ( embarrassment time over as i was about 11 yrs old then)
now i was having similar discussions which someone brought up yesterday again about farting and prayer.
so here are the questions

would you have to stop prayer if u farted during salat i.e lets say u farted, would u stop praying outright and go and do another ablution and start again or would you continue with the prayer.

i also remember a time as a family that we were saying prayers and my brother had a "fit of farts" he must have done ablution about 5 times, each time he came back and started again he let one off again. eventually my dad restrained him from getting up to do his ablution as he had done it now by 5 times already.

so what is your postulation hre.

For me by way of reasoning i say if i farted during prayer i will finsh with my prayer as long as my fart is not smelly. ( yes sorry to burst ur bubble but sssssshhhhhh! women do fart as well) for the plain reason that there is gas which occurs from movement of bowels associated with bowing and prostration which sometimes cannot be held as its an act of nature.

however fully knowing that if i wanted to start another prayer i.e night prayer i would have to start ablution again because my ablution would have been null and void for any subsequent prayer.

for clarification i should add that i hold to theory that as long as u dont nullify ablution (according to quran ( in the name of the God,): urine, feacal matter, sexual impurities, gas, then ablution is still valid and can be held for as long as one wishes, though out of ritual practices which i have come to regard as my peculiar habits, i prefer to do fresh ablution for each prayer.)

now some of my friends have argued that u must leave prayer and do ablution again but my counter arguement is that especially as with congregation prayer, leaving prayer may disrupt others prayers ( well come to think of it, so would a smelly fart)

then again when looking at it in light of quran, there is no specific mention of farting and prayer. it only talks ( God help me here) about what nullifies abluton ( see surah 5:6 and 4:43) for making it easy here are translations from diff schools of thought)

5:6
Khalifa
O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands (and arms) to the elbows; Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles. If ye are in a state of ceremonial impurity, bathe your whole body. But if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands, God doth not wish to place you in a difficulty, but to make you clean, and to complete his favour to you, that ye may be grateful.
Pickthal
O ye who believe! When ye rise up for prayer, wash you faces, and your hands up to the elbows, and lightly rub your heads and (wash) your feet up to the ankles. And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it. Allah would not place a burden on you, but He would purify you and would perfect His grace upon you, that ye may give thanks.
Shakir
O you who believe! when you rise up to prayer, wash your faces and your hands as far as the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you are under an obligation to perform a total ablution, then wash (yourselves) and if you are sick or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy, or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth and wipe your faces and your hands therewith, Allah does not desire to put on you any difficulty, but He wishes to purify you and that He may complete His favor on you, so that you may be grateful.
Sher Ali
O ye who believe ! when you stand up for Prayer, wash your faces, and your hands up to the elbows, and pass your wet hands over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you be unclean, purify yourselves by bathing. And if you are ill or you are on a journey while unclean, or one of you comes from the privy or you have touched women, and find not water, betake yourselves to pure dust and wipe therewith your faces and your hands. Allah desires not that HE should place you in a difficulty but HE desires to purify you and to complete HIS favour upon you, so that you may be grateful.
"Progressive Muslims"
O you who believe, if you rise to attend the assembly, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe you heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you are filthy, then become clean; and if you are ill or traveling or you have excreted, or you have sexually touched the women, and you could not find water, then you shall do ablution from clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands. God does not want to make any hardship over you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be appreciative.
and 4:43 is
Khalifa
O you who believe, do not observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) while intoxicated, so that you know what you are saying. Nor after sexual orgasm without bathing, unless you are on the road, traveling; if you are ill or traveling, or you had urinary or fecal-related excretion (such as gas), or contacted the women (sexually), and you cannot find water, you shall observe Tayammum (dry ablution) by touching clean dry soil, then wiping your faces and hands therewith. GOD is Pardoner, Forgiver.
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! Approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say,- nor in a state of ceremonial impurity (Except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body. If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For God doth blot out sins and forgive again and again.
Pickthal
O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter, nor when ye are polluted, save when journeying upon the road, till ye have bathed. And if ye be ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have touched women, and ye find not water, then go to high clean soil and rub your faces and your hands (therewith). Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.
Shakir
O you who believe! do not go near prayer when you are Intoxicated until you know (well) what you say, nor when you are under an obligation to perform a bath -- unless (you are) travelling on the road -- until you have washed yourselves; and if you are sick, or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth, then wipe your faces and your hands; surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving.
Sher Ali
O ye who believe ! go not near Prayer when you are not in full possession of your senses, until you know what you are saying, nor when you are unclean, except when you are travelling along a way, until you have bathed. And if you are ill or you are on a journey while unclean, or if one of you comes from the privy or you have touched women and you find no water, then betake yourselves to pure dust and wipe therewith your faces and your hands. Surely Allah is the Effacer of sins, Forgiving,
"Progressive Muslims"
O you who believe, do not come near the assembly while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor dirty, except for travellers, until you wash. And if you are ill or traveling or one of you has excretion or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water: then you shall make ablution with clean soil by wiping your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.




and as one friend puts it "ablution is precourser to starting prayer". so we know that for our units of prayer we mush make sure ablution is valid i.e no urine/feacalness etc as mentioned in quran.

this was a strong subject within my group of friend and i want to open this wide up and see what my other friends thinks of this issue.

as a final note and upon wider reflection, i feel because it is not specifically mentioned i.e when u fart during prayer start again, then i feel it i not wholly important and it is left to each individual to decide when is comfy and not comfy in the sight of their God. God has been kind to us and has given us specific rules on ablution which we should do before starting any prayer however quran makes no specific rulings on while doing prayers and things happen.

what comes to mind for me and seals my overall opinion on this issue is in surah 5 verse 101- 102
which says ITNGMGMM ( this is copy and pasting from Khalifa's translation - O you who believe, do not ask about matters which, if revealed to you prematurely, would hurt you. If you ask about them in light of the Quran, they will become obvious to you. GOD has deliberately overlooked them. GOD is Forgiver, Clement.- Others before you have asked the same questions, then become disbelivers therein

for comparison purposes, other traslation are as below

5:101
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, God will forgive those: for God is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing.
Pickthal
O ye who believe! Ask not of things which, if they were made unto you, would trouble you; but if ye ask of them when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made known unto you. Allah pardoneth this, for Allah is Forgiving, Clement.
Shakir
O you who believe! do not put questions about things which if declared to you may trouble you, and if you question about them when the Quran is being revealed, they shall be declared to you; Allah pardons this, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing.
Sher Ali
O ye who believe ! ask not about things which, if revealed to you, would cause you trouble, though if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being sent down they will be revealed to you. Allah has left them out on purpose. And Allah is Most Forgiving and Forbearing.
"Progressive Muslims"
O you who believe, do not ask about things which, if revealed to you, would harm you; and if you ask about them after the Quran has been sent down, then they will become clear to you. God pardons for them, and God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

5:102
Yusuf Ali
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
Pickthal
A folk before you asked (for such disclosures) and then disbelieved therein.
Shakir
A people before you indeed asked such questions, and then became disbelievers on account of them.
Sher Ali
A people before you asked about such things, but then they became disbelievers therein.
"Progressive Muslims"
A people before you had asked the same, then they became rejecters in it.

so i leave it to you for contemplation..... what do you think?

fats

'Gay man' disinterred in Senegal

This article if from BBC Africa news..ref link..http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8032754.stm

Now it beggers belief that after buring a body that people want to exhume it
WHY??:- because the body -from my understand of the article- was a living person porputed to be gay or practicing homosexuality..
LAUGHing MY Head OUT LOUD.
Seriously..It is very hard not to have an opinion and not to judge.. so i want to carefully examine this..as far as my insane brain will allow me to...

• is it a case of that the "dead gay body" will proposition other straight or gay men in the grave and urge them to perform whattever acts they do?
  
• is it a case of the "dead gay body" will hinder the rest of the "muslim dead bodies- " from attaining mercy of God
  
• Do they have PROOF that the "dead Gay body" was actually Gay.. Not i say PROOF because from reading the article, it is muslim people that have an objection to having the person buried there.. and as with anything before you can accuse someone of a lewd act of behaviour you need PROOF.. no PROOF no ACCUSATIONS!!!
  
• Can the people verify that other people buried there were not gay/whatever... Do they want to exhume them as well?
  

Now, I dont know anything about gays/non gays or homosexuality or whatever have ytou.. nor do i want to know..
but i know about tolerism.. My own definition of this is " understanding that each person has his/her own demons/battles to contend with.. and not judging them on those battles but rather exercising patience and inspiration that The Creator will guide them right and hopefully that they too will do what is right by them and their Creator.."Once you are dead, you are dead...nothing coming, nothing going..

This world makes me laugh sometimes..I can only say that : "God! Me with my own battles/deamons that i want rid off, God be merciful unto me and help me to stive in your cause. Help me to rememeber Thee always and to remember to hold on to Thee, even in the bleakest of times and situations".

I am also veered into remembering what i heard in the news recently that it costs an average of £3000 to bury a person.. I was like "WHAAAAAAT" if i had 3 grand, defo!! it aint gonna be for burying dead person.. imagine Dat!! i am quite sure when i was born, my folks didnt fork out 3 grand to celebrate me into life.. apart from frying puff puff and making akara, what else have you...

Bloody Heck..

What are they burying.. people are dying of hunger starvation and here are some people wasting 3 grand to bury person.. as if the buried person will be thanking them for it.. once you are dead you are dead. Your earthly body doesnt matter.

Wether you shroud it in expensive white brocade or you just reuse baby napkins.. still the same thing. Wether you lie in gold encrusted coffin or you just use degradable bin bag .. it is still the same thing

The ants and creepy crawlies that descend upon your body and munch on - is still the same- only hang up is dat you is gonna give them hard work to do if you lie in a coffin encrusted with gold..

God sufficies for me.. He is the best Protector 30/04/09

Earlier Today i woke up about to say my morning prayer and as usual the mind wonders to some things.. some focused and others at times.. God guide and help me with that...
for what ever reason, a voice called to me "Hasbuna llahu wa nima-al wa killlu"..
I blocked it out lest it was a distraction for me during payer..

I remember tthe saying but i have never bothered with what it meant..it is a saying from young when young alfa's gather round for prayers and praises afterwards..
what i remember them saying is ""hasbuna llahu wa nima-al wa killu"". "Wa nimma maola wa nimma nasirru". i now know Nassir means victory ( from surah Nasir.. "Idha jaa a nassru llahi wal fathu".. "when triumph and victory comes from God")but i am not sure of the meaning of the second part.. am not sure where it is got from..

Any ways,

I gots to reading the quran.. where i am at now is surah 3.. al-imran.. and the part i was reading that morning ... albeit a bit lazily read the words..
Lo and Behold..."Hasbuna llahu wa nimma wa killu" was at the end of one of the verses...
(2:173 to be precise)
I froze for a second and i bowed my head in adoration to the Almighty God who never ceases to amaze me, never ceases to astound me or to inspire me...

The meaning therein is.. "God suffiices for us( me) He is the best Protector"...

remember when i wrote that spill about " no weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" well... the best resolve and ending for that issue will be "God suffices for me.. He is the best Protector"...

truth

What ever thing i read,hear or see.
Any good therein.. My lord Guide me to it
Any truth therein, My Lord, Direct me to it
Any bad therein, My Lord, Keep it from me
Any Falseness therein, My Lord Save me from it..

You alone Direct and Guide to the truth
You alone Insipre and Give meaning

interesting conversations...this life never ceases to amuse me...

Start
Salam everyone, Could someone who is knowledgeble please explain in simple English what is the issue with these counts? I've read about them before but can't seem to grasp it. When a situation comes up where I have an opportunity to talk about the message and the miracle, I have in the past sent people to submission.org or masjidtucson. .org. Should I not be doing this because of this count business? Also, some of you may already know this but there are also mistakes claimed in Appendix 15 regarding the multiples of 19 in the confirmation of the 5 prayers and the Friday prayer. I have confirmed this for myself and have brought it other people's attention in the community but they seem reluctant to make changes to the appendix. I find this unsettling because in my dreams of bringing the message and the miracle to the main stream media I feel all claims should be absolutely correct. Peace and God Bless,

Reply
salamit is all interesting again.. a point i feel we are missing or might be missing is that 19 or not.. it is belief in God alone that matters. one only has to read the quran to see that... we are holding on to miracles i.e miracle of 19. the quran is clear in terms of prayer i feel and as long as you hold on to God and uphold Gods scriptures.. Quran and all... then God wiling everything becomes clear... yes it is good to have clarified and honest statements made about and in refeence to the quran.. i feel. personally i dont understand the 19 thing and have never made an attempt to understand bar counting the no of times out lips touch in fatiah... but using the 19 thing to justify everything else in life may not be ideal or right... it may be but i dont know that. as i see it, the 19 may be a valid evidence for the authenticity of the Quran... but it is authenticity of salat.. which by the way is authentic on its own because going nac history and worship lines.. it is a practice that is always constant. bar all the new formations and interpretations that humans tend to impose on themselves.. or zakat or anything else for that matter... God guide us all and guide us to the truth.. salam fats
i am quite intrugued though about what you say so if i may have missed it earlier apologies but can you bring our attention to your findings...if you say you have brought it to the communties atention and they have done nothing.. open it up to everybody and let everyone see what it is you say.. there may be someone in this forum who may help shed light on the issue for you...the apendixes i feel were a persons/group of persons understandin g and take on some topics in the quran as such changes to the apendixes may mean getting all the people who contributed to it together to agree on the change and get it done.. this my or may not be possible.. salam

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from your statements repeated below I gather you do not necessarily believe there is a mathematical miracle based on the number 19 in the Quran, and do not accept Rashad Khalifa as a messenger of God. Your statements which caught my attention: ”the apendixes i feel were a persons/group of persons understandin g and take on some topics in the quran as such changes to the apendixes may mean getting all the people who contributed to it together to agreeon the change and get it done.. this my or may not be possible..”
”a point i feel we are missing or might be missing is that 19 or not.. it is belief in God alone that matters. one only has to read the quran to see that... we are holding on to miracles i.e miracle of 19.” ”personally i dont understand the 19 thing and have never made an attempt to understand bar counting the no of times out lips touch in fatiah ” ”as i see it, the 19 may be a valid evidence for the authenticity of the Quran...but it is authenticity of salat.. which by the way is authentic on its own ” What you believe or not is of course entirely up to you. We are all free to believe what we want, or not, and nobody on this forum has anything invested in your choice,ither way. The thing is, that this particular forum, which is by invitation only, is for people who believe in the miracle of the Quran and have accepted the> mesesngership of Rashad Khalifa. As we have already accepted this new information from God and are reaping the benefits of increased and clarified understanding because of it, we wish to advance from this point forward, not go backwards. Therefore we made this a forum only for people who have passed this point of erification. If that was not made clear enough before, our apologies. Let it be made clear enough now If you feel that your statements have been misinterpreted, I welcome your correction of the same.

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salam my comments and personal opinion are thus as i wrote so I am not sure which part you dont understand.. but i am afraid to say that you gather wrongly.apeendices i gather were the work of rashad as well as contributions from other people.. according to the apendices themselves .. hence any alteration to them i feel should rightly involve those who contributed to it then get them all to agree on alteration and correct them whenb you have revised editions 1/2/3/4 them i can also safely assume that alterations have been made in the past this is my egenral observation
19 miracle is something which fascinated me but no something i personally can rwalte to.. i did not say i dont believe in it, i said it is something i do not understand.. there is a difference.. praise God that i am able to read the wquran and from my heart i know that it is the right thing for me: worship God alone and all religious laws according to the Quran.. i personally dont require validity as experience has taught me that my soul/heart knows validity from what it reads and understands( God willing i will sit and count the thing myself in the near future) because God will make it clear for me and all praises be to God that He has.. my statements have not been misrepresented. ..as i was clear what i wrote i will beg your indulgence to say that you are the one reading it wrong.. salam fats ps: having read it back i am amazed to say fats is the only person i know evene with spell checker who still gets everything spelt wrongly

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What part did I read wrong?
I stated that you do not beeve in the miracle of 19 – which you admit to. How can you, when you have not looked at it yet? I stated that you do not accept Rashad Khalifa as a messenger of God – which your statement that the Appendices ”were a persons/group of persons understandin g and take on some topics” indicates. It is either that or that you have not been bothered to look at it yet properly. Had you read the appendices, verified and accepted the information in them, you would not have said what you did about the contents, and you would know that the contents are not negotiable or adjustable, as it was conveyed through a commissioned messenger of God (there were some small contributions in terms of mathematical observations - some of which were later found to be wrong, and were thus removed - nothing else besides proof reading). Your take on all of this, as I entioned, may very well be because you have not taken the time to look at it yet. From what you are saying it seems however that you feel neither an urgency, nor a necessity in so doing. This strikes me as odd for someone who believes in God, and especially odd for someone who claims to believe in the Quran. That would be like a Christian hearing about Jesus being back, preaching in the church next door, deciding it is not important to go and listen. I raised this question to you, as one of the critierias to be a member of this forum is to have passed the point of verification of these facts. We made it so, as we know that these facts serve as a filter to distinguish those who believe from those who don’t (3:82), as well as those who harbor doubts who say it is not important, or ’so what’ (74:31). And if the simple facts of themiracle listed in the Appendices cannot attract enough of
your attention to convince you, of a miracle God describes
as ten times the miracle of all the previous ones, what
could you possibly share with us, and what could we possibly
say to you, that would be useful to either If you wish to stay a member of this forum, I urge you to look at the miracle and get back to us with your take on it as soon as possible.

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Salam AlaykumI dont understand it does not mean i dont believe in it..by my comprehension i can accept a fact without nevessarily understanding it...re apendicssare just what i have stated...and by the way.. dont assume i have not had a look. i must have had a look to notice that they were contributors to somer facts presented therein.. hence my logic on it... i have the second edition of the rashad translated quran so any omission/addition i am not aware of..as thankfylly I have eyes to read and ears to hear and brain to understandto verify that the worship of God is about God alone and the Quran as source of religious law.. do not be so hasty as to presume that we all have to follow verification on the same level..as i said previously, my soul/heart knows what is the truth from God ( which by the way is culmination of using my faculties to disern what is right from false) and as i leave and breathe God help me towards accepting it and following it...my opinions as thus i do not see any need to change it..as to being a part in the forum... it is ur choice if u want to remove or not.. doesnt add anything to my worship of God or subtract anything from my worship practices to God.. i enjoy the forum becos it given me things to ponder on re:different people different ways and i learn from each post so really its up to you...as previously stated i have said what i said ( not sure which part you are taking out of context bcos it is clear to me)and i stand where i stand.. God being my witness and my judge..ps: it is not you or anyone who decides who believes or does not believe.. True belief in God and His message comes from God and is by His grace...as such we are all racing in each our own ways to attaining the status of believers...though i am aware of a point you may be making in terms of this.fats

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Samun Alaykum
You neither believe in it, or not, even though, as you now add in your latest response, you may have already looked at it. Either way, you have not made up your mind about it, which is a criteria to be a member of this forum.
You were invited to clarify your position regarding this, but instead are restating your original attitude in downsizing the significance of the miracle. Even though you are using subtle words in so doing, and even though you state your commitment to God alone and being a believer in the Quran alone, you are posting ideas on this forum that the miracle of 19 does not really matter that much, that you don’t really need it, and that people are spending too much time on it. All of these attitudes are completely unquranic.
”a point i feel we are missing or might be missing is that 19 or not.. it is belief in God alone that matters. one only has to read the quran to see that... we are holding on to miracles i.e miracle of 19.” ”personally i dont understand the 19 thing and have never made an attempt to understand bar counting the no of times out lips touch in fatiah... ” ”as i see it, the 19 may be a valid evidence for the authenticity of the Quran...but it is authenticity of salat.. which by the way is authentic on its own ”
”my soul/heart knows what is the truth from God ( which by the way is culmination of using my faculties to disern what is right from false)...”
”my opinions as thus i do not see any need to change it..”

You are welcome to reapply to this forum when you have had time to properly verify the facts and state your position on them.

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salam alaykum..
but i am findnd this rather interesting...
nd point of note my personal opinion is my personal opinion as i am sure every one has theirs...
like i stated.before i do not need to understand the 19 before accepting that worshipping God is about God alone..if thats how it worked for u then good for you...

"Yu were invited to clarify your position regarding this, but instead are restating your original attitude in downsizing the significance of the miracle. Even though you are using subtle words in so doing, and even though you state your commitment to God alone and being a believer in the Quran alone, you are posting ideas on this forum that the miracle of 19 does not really matter that much, that you don’t really need it, and that people are spending too much time on it. All of these attitudes are completely unquranic"

i didnt realise i was being subtle.. because i am as clear with my writing as i clear in my head Thank God...
so let me clarify here, are you expecting everyone to have the same thought process?
will be better to read my postings with a clear mind not any hidden agenda..
if you or anyone dont agree with my comments then fair enuff. iam not expecting you to neither am i expecting you to.. is that un-subtle enuff.. postings are there i guess to bunce ideas of each person and God willing maybe learn something new..
as always i only speak fo rmyself, on my experiences and my understanding...
what is unquranic about that expect speaking the truth and holding onto god alone as that...
i wrote a whole splii there about the 19 but really on aftertough i am realising that you want me to account for myself re: how i can believe in God without necesarrily nderstanding the 19 miracle... but really it dawns on me that i cannot and will not stoop that low as to give you justification for my faith.. which is what you are asking...
first because i would want to know if you have asked everyone of this or am i just being singled out because you dont like what i have posted...
second because really i have already done that in my earlier replies to you.. much to my amazement...
in anycase both will imply that you are jdge and jury and neither of which apply. so i have deleted it...

"his approach and attitude is exposing arrogance and contributes to spreading poison and doubts. We have plenty of that outside this forum. THIS forum was created for people who have already passed the point of verification of these earth shattering facts and miracle, who have a clear mind and heart about this matters, so we can discuss other things here which will help us move forward, not spend time discussing things we have already passed a long time ago, which can only drag us back. "

arrgoance.. hmmm.. that is a new one... spreading poison/doubt.. who have i spread poisin and doubt to...
if you feel i have.. please Hold on to God and dont let go... because that is what we are invited to do.. I am clear that i want to hold on to God alon.. are you..?
and dear, what makes you think i have not passed the "point of verification of these matters earth shattering...." you seem to think yo uknow all the answers and have all the hands on everyones thought process...
why on earth would you imply that i d not have a clear mind or heart about...
like i said this is rather interesting...
God be praised that i know when i am from, know where i have been and thank God know where i want to go...
so really in all honesty ............
since you have a handle on everything you will decide what mkes us as a community progreaa forward or what makes us regress...arogance my dear....but i am glad i understand that is your personal opinion so good luck to you...
fats

This life amazes me because as usual it does...authocraty and power is when you leave no room for possibilities outside your own.. where you expect people to follow one norm.. yours..

the wor os God will always be the same whichever way you look at it, try to distort it or comprehend it.. word of God is the word of God.. and as i dont answer to any man. Gods will be done..
afterall, it is God i am asked to worship and his laws i am asked to upohold..

for those who require proof of Gods dominance good luck to them and for those who dont good luck to then as well.

in gods manifestation there is no mistake, no count error and no ambiguesness,, There is room for everyone and possibilities are endless.

like i said, there may not be a one size fits all,, we have to account that we are all individual each with our ous circumstances.. what happends for one may not necessarily be the same for the other.. the sooner we aret realising that the better..
The end result will always be the end result.. but getting there may involve trips, jumps, straigh forward or even wuru wuru to the answer..

organised religion/group/whateva name you call it.. leaves something to be desired,, especially when there is no room for expression.. if that expression does not fit in with you you want to fit in with...

everything happens for a reason as such this was meant to matrilise..
as always God is the one I hold on to and all my guidance and clarification is the the quran from God as is also in other scriptures of God, Oldtestament, Gospel of Jesus, Psalms..

and if I hold on to God alone i am most certain i will not fail...
fats


something else comes to mind...
gods system is always the same..
i.e look at jesus and his diciples... it was after jesus that we had gospel of mark, peter etc... Dem say jesus said that......some grave claims were made.. which were not made when jesus was alive o... some people choosing to believe in Paul/mark his diciples over what Jesus himself has said/brought from God.. as such we have different factions of chrustianity...

look at mohammed and his followers... it was their take that divided arab islam to shia sunni and whatever have you....Den say mohammed say that......some grave claims were made.. which were not made when mohammed was alive...some people choosing to believe his hadith.. his sayings that they heard other people saying over the word of God.. as such we have factions those who choose God alone vs those who choose messenger alone vs those who just mixthe two

now look at rashad Khalifa.. it was after him that we are having different people and their different takes.. Dem say that he say that...there are editions of the Quran..

now where in earth does one have editions of the word of God.. but rather these editions are in the appendices.. which man has written...
really in Gods words there is no mistake but rather it is in man and his actions that we find mistakes and erros

some people choosing to upholsd his hadith,.. which is his saying over the word of God...

really Gods system is always the same..

you knw what i call God.. "teacher of the Quran"... He is the one who will teach me, can guide me and provide meaning for me.. anyone else who think they can do this.. good luck to them.. but rather i choose God over anybody else.. Gods word is out there.. make of it what you will

but on a logicall level.. despite what ever else we have.. if you hold on to the word of God and god alone.. then no need for this nonsence...

Who else but Thee

Who else but Thee can Guide and Protect me
Who else but Thee to Inspire and Encourage me
Who is like Thee that can Comfort and Soothe me
Subhanaka La Huma Rabb-il Aalamin

Who else but thee knows my heart and my longings
Who else but thee sees my suffering and anguish
Who else but thee surely will guide me to the truth
Subhanaka La Huma Rabb-il Aalamin

Who else but Thee is my King and Saviour
Who else but Thee can Provide and Grant me
Who else but thee is my Sustainer and Guardian
Subhanaka La Huma Rabb-il Aalamin

Who is like Thee Possesor of All Authourity
Who is like Thee Eternal and Ever Lasting
Who is like thee Preserver and Sustainer
Subhanaka La Huma Rabb-il Aalamin

Who is like Thee O one who cares for me
Who is like Thee My provider and and Protector
Who else but Thee means this much to me
Subhanaka La Huma Rabb-il Aalamin

"Subhanaka la Huma Rabb-il Aalamin"
Be you Glorified my God, Lord of the Universe..

buzzy bee

wow!!

I have been buzzzzzzy dis april...

Anyhow.. God be praised, a lot of issues highlighted and resolved..

very testing month it was for me... a lot of emotions i have been thru a lot os things happening underground as well as surface.

i broke down visibly.. emotionally spent and drained

God lifted me UP and i tried again

A lot of rejections enough to deflate the amazon spirit

God provided and made up for it

But i am able to say Thanks my Lord for the journey, for the learning and the realisation

I learnt a new arabic word.. something i was searching for but was right under my nose..

"Be you Glorified my Lord" which roughly translates "Subhanaka La Huma"

I drove a new car Vauxhall Insignia to Birmingham and back... need cushions to prop me up tho...

My friend had a baby Girl and was in my house while she was in labour..it was very interesting to watch it live and direct...

I ate fresh Yam..." Isu" for the first time in 9 years...

I signed up again for race for life.. bound to be fun

all in all, My Lord i am grateful for everything...

No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper.... expect ordained by God

"If GOD touches you with a hardship, none can relieve it except He. And when He blesses you, no force can prevent His grace. He bestows it upon whomever He chooses from among His servants. He is the Forgiver, Most Merciful." 10:108

I was looking for somehting else and i came across this verse..

Do you remember when our parents will go,, it was he , she, dem people.. who are doing this that that against you... They dont want you to succeed etc bla bla bla
At least sometimes my mum has said that...
it makes me laugh you know..

what a powerful statement it makes - the above verse..
and i can understand it to mean, if God willed something for you then so be it..
I am reminded by another verse "Inama amruhu idha arada shayan an ya kula lahu Kun Fa Ya Kun".. ( arabic a bit hazy sorry)Surah 34 ( second to the last verse)
loosely without checking means.. "For anything to be done all He (God) has to say is Be and It is..."

so at all times God is always in control and as He has designed, so it shall be..

This is particularly true for me in that i am grateful to God that i can recognise that God's will be done so when those "nagging" "nipping" voices in my head start to bother me with weird suggestions that "maybe dis person doesnt like you and wants to do juju for you".. bla bla etc.. I can always overide with logic and say.. if that is the will of my God then so be it.. for in my times of triumph and tribulation I will always turn to my Lord.. In times of happiness and sadness I will still turn to my Lord. even when things dont go my way, even after longing and pining for ages and it still doesnt swing in my favour, I will still turn to the Lord.. For the Lord will always provide in His own time when He knows it will benefit me..

So no person or being can do nada to me except unless my God has ordained that they shall, No one can stop my flow unless My God has ordained so.. and if it is that way, Then i guess my Lord sets me a test to see if i will run helter skelter or if i will still remember Him..
God willing regardless of the test, I always turn to my God.. The Almighty..

Remember the scripture where solomon said.. "This is a test whereby my Lord tests me to see if i am appreciative or not"...

Well, in my own way i can say all these things are a test for me to see despite the adversity and hardship if i will still hold on to my Lord

May God be praised, always and eternally by me and by every being..

My Lord, for real, direct me to be appreciative of the blessings that you have bestowed on me and to do the righteous works that pleases thee.Admit me by thy mercy into the company of your rightous servants,
For even I in fields so broad, some duties I may fulfill. And i shall ask for no reward except to serve Thee still.
Let thy name be forever on my lips, my every breath my every thought, Let me never ever forget to praise you, exalt you, remember you..
For indeed you have never forgotten me, indeed you are always there for me..
though i may have ran away from you, for years and years, I come to thee in totality seeking thy ways and thy ways only. Seeking thy truth and guidance.

Who else but Thee will guide and inspire me
Who else but Thee can provide for me
Who else but Thee O Lord can I turn too

For all praise is Yours
All authority, Kingship and Glory
In this life and in the hereafter
Be you Glorified most Gracious Lord,

ps: i always feel knd of smug and sheepish when i blurb all gooey like this.. but this is me.. F.A.O..warts and all..

Meditation

“My Lord admit me a honorable admittance
And Let me depart a honorable departure
And grant me from You a Powerful Support”

Yesterday I was mulling over these words and another part of the scripture jumped to my head.

“Any one who reverences God, He will create an exit for him”


The first part I remember as one of the things I put down in my little book of prayers as part of a quartet of verses from the scripture Surah/Chapter 17 which we know as Bani Israel or Children of Israel.
I have included the verse before it and the ones after it, so we can get a glimpse of what it is referring to.

17:78
You shall observe the Contact Prayer (Salat) when the sun declines from its highest point at noon, as it moves towards sunset. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed.

17:79
During the night, you shall meditate for extra credit, that your Lord may raise you to an honorable rank.

17:80
And say, "My Lord, admit me an honorable admittance, and let me depart an honorable departure, and grant me from You a powerful support."

17:81
Proclaim, "The truth has prevailed, and falsehood has vanished; falsehood will inevitably vanish."

(Parenthesis are the translators own inference to bind the verses together)

The words didn’t strike me till yesterday.. Half asleep, half awake

But before I mull it over I want to look at the bottom statement.

This was from chapter/Surah 65, which people may know as Talaq or Divorce.
As the theme goes, it talks about divorce/separation of partners. I have included the verse before it and the verse after it.. So that one can get a glimpse of what it is referring to..



65:1
O you prophet, when you people divorce the women, you shall ensure that a divorce interim is fulfilled. You shall measure such an interim precisely. You shall reverence GOD your Lord. Do not evict them from their homes, nor shall you make life miserable for them, to force them to leave on their own, unless they commit a proven adultery. These are GOD’s laws. Anyone who transgresses GOD’s laws commits an injustice against himself. You never know; maybe GOD wills something good to come out of this.

65:2
Once the interim is fulfilled, you may reconcile with them equitably, or go through with the separation equitably. You shall have two equitable witnesses witness the divorce before GOD. This is to enlighten those who believe in GOD and the Last Day. Anyone who reverences GOD, He will create an exit for him.

65:3
And will provide for him whence he never expected. Anyone who trusts in GOD, He suffices him. GOD’s commands are done. GOD has decreed for everything its fate.

At first in some sort of weird way, I thought the two were linked in that it was referring to the same thing.. But when I am looking at it now I cant see it..

The first statement I feel relates to meditation…
You see, the other time about a year ago, I was thinking about meditation…
I found it especially hard to grasp the notion of meditation because for someone like me -with so many things jumping around in my head all at the same time - who finds it hard to calm down and be restful… it is quite hard to grasp the notion of sitting idle and focusing on one thing.. So I was researching meditation and how to meditate…

I came across this chapter and verse and as such I am hoping Gw, it will be a nightly occurrence - One of my chanting mantras to fall asleep to.

Anyhow,
The second part relates to divorce so in a logical aspect they are not linked, unless you look at the word exit from a different perspective.
Exit as in “removal from a place/situation/process” - which is the way I was looking at it..

But back to the first statement…

Honorable admittance.
Admittance into Gods mercy, into paradise, into everlasting peace and light, Admittance to be part of Gods righteous servants…
Honorable departure.
Departure from sin, from this world and its trappings, from darkness
Powerful support
Support in testing times, in times of hope and longings, support to carry out ones obligations, to be on the right path, to uphold God’s revelations
Need I say more..

Vauxhall pain...

I am in pain... OOOOOH it hurts so much...
My little tonto went to the doctor for its annual check up
My little tonto was certified not well
OOOOUCH! that hurt
Anyhow Tonto had to get fixed and what a SHOCKER!!
I was not prepared for what i got..
£300 just to have tonto back in order
AAAaaaaaRRRRRrrrrrGGGGGGggghhhhh!
I choked when i was given the estimate..
Wipers,rear registration lamp, Front brake pads, Rear coils,Rear Middle Seat belt, bearing..
I know tonto was slightly out of shape but not that much....
I defo was not prepared for that...

In retrospect, It could have been worse, so i just have to be thankful...anyways
I remember leaving tonto at the doctors, walking myself down the gravel path to the bus stop..
i was half laughing half crying.. asking God to look after my tonto for me.. hoping that the diagnosis didnt come out quite bad..."i commend my tonto in your hands Lord, let her be ok"

Darling Tonto... You are god sent...so what did i do...
Well got it paid, got tonto fixed and now tonto is in much better health and status
Not for me though, cos i am still fighting a cough/cold, which is intent on coming back...

in the spirit of being grateful .. a song rises from my lips.. Lord let it be acceptable unto thee

My Lord is wonderful
My Lord is Excellent
My Lord is Merciful
My Lord is Good

Compassionate King
Merciful Lord
You are my God
Yor are my God

Compassionate King
Merciful Lord
You are my King
You are my King

All Ihave is cos of Your mercy
You've been good to me
You've been good to me

Everything I own
Is because of thee
You are good to me
You are good to me

I am grateful Lord
I am grateful Lord
For all you have done
I am grateful Lord
I am grateful Bountiful
I am grateful Lord

Oluwa me sanu fun mi
Iwo ni kan ni Alagbara
Iwo ni kan ni Oba Aiye
Iwo ni kan ni Oba Rere
Iwo ni kan no Oba, Oba mimo

Olorun mii gbadura mii
Sanu fun mi Alagbara
Iwo ni kan no Oba Rere
Iwo ni kan ni Oba Anu
Iwo ni kan ni Olugbala, Oba mimo
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what people call Pillars of Islam... 3 Vs 5

Belief in God and devoting the religion to God only
Salst which invilves the act of bowing and prostration to God.. at specific times,, as designated by God in the scripture
Charity which should go to parents, poor, needy traveling alien

These three are my own take on what the creed is islam is all about...
remember the surah.. proof. Bayinnah.. Surah 98 All that was asked of them was to worship God, devoting the religion to Him alone, observe salst and give the obligatory zakat. SUCH IS THE PERFECT RELIGION

This is how i understand Islam to be..
The notion of 5 pillars to include fasting and pilgrim is not new to me because it was what was taught to me from young.. but when i look through the quran all i find repeatededly is these three points... Belief, Prayer and Charity..
Why has this come to my mind now.. i dont know,, i was thinking about it before but it wasnt until when Dr. K was grilling me that i gave him my own opinion as i understand it to be.. God be my Guide and provide me with wisdom and knowledge...
I find this interesting and perplexing slightly...

Oh point to note.. i am not discouraging fasting or pilgrimage.. far from it.. Fasting is there for a reason.. and it is up to each person to do or not do... ( it is better to fast as teh quran advises us.... Pilgrimage as well is there if we can go.. it is incumbemt on each person to fast and if possible complete pilgrimage..

my point being though.. in the quran as i understand this tobe.. There is no other alternative for belief, prayer or charity.. it is a MUST with a capital MUST. anything else i guess is disbelief in God.


I seek refuge with thee O Lord, You are Hearer and Seer
2:183
O you who believe, fasting is decreed for you, as it was decreed for those before you, that you may attain salvation.
2:184
Specific days (are designated for fasting); if one is ill or traveling, an equal number of other days may be substituted. Those who can fast, but with great difficulty, may substitute feeding one poor person for each day of breaking the fast. If one volunteers (more righteous works), it is better. But fasting is the best for you, if you only knew.
2:185
Ramadan is the month during which the Quran was revealed, providing guidance for the people, clear teachings, and the statute book. Those of you who witness this month shall fast therein. Those who are ill or traveling may substitute the same number of other days. GOD wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfill your obligations, and to glorify GOD for guiding you, and to express your appreciation.

as for hajj

2:196
You shall observe the complete rites of Hajj and`Umrah for GOD. If you are prevented, you shall send an offering, and do not resume cutting your hair until your offering has reached its destination. If you are ill, or suffering a head injury (and you must cut your hair), you shall expiate by fasting, or giving to charity, or some other form of worship. During the normal Hajj, if you break the state of Ihraam (sanctity) between `Umrah and Hajj, you shall expiate by offering an animal sacrifice. If you cannot afford it, you shall fast three days during Hajj and seven when you return home - this completes ten - provided you do not live at the Sacred Masjid. You shall observe GOD, and know that GOD is strict in enforcing retribution.

2:197
Hajj shall be observed in the specified months. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence.

22:27
"And proclaim that the people shall observe Hajj pilgrimage. They will come to you walking or riding on various exhausted (means of transportation). They will come from the farthest locations."

As for the three that i am talking about..

22:78
You shall strive for the cause of GOD as you should strive for His cause. He has chosen you and has placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion - the religion of your father Abraham. He is the one who named you "Submitters" originally. Thus, the messenger shall serve as a witness among you, and you shall serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and hold fast to GOD; He is your Lord, the best Lord and the best Supporter.

other verses if interest are 2:83, 2:110. 2:117. 2:227, 4:162, 5:12, 8:3, 9:18, 22:41, 22:78, 31:4, 73:20, 98:5

is it so hard to believe...

Is it so hard to believe that there is only one God and everything around us, attests to this fact..
Is it so hard to grasp that it is only one message through out time, from our Lord, Our God..
I am priviledged to see in various many religions, various many faiths and practices - these same religions that have divided man and nation apart- that it is still one God. when you look deep down, you can see, when you think to the roots, you can know.. and when you think about it, it all becomes clear..

i saw this bahia prayer and i was moved by its words.. As ever our Lord is one God.. once we stop spouting the words and practices of man and then concentrate on the words and direction from God... i think we will have started our journey...

My Lord, direct me in the path of righteousness and allow me to uphold thy words and commandments. Shine your light of truth upon me and provide for me from thee understanding and wisdom. For thine is the truth, Thine is all things, Knowledge and Guidance... fats

Praise be to Thee, O Lord my God! I am the one who hath sought the good pleasure of Thy will, and directed his steps towards the seat of Thy gracious favors. I am he who hath forsaken his all, who hath fled to Thee for shelter, who hath set his face towards the tabernacle of Thy revelation and the adored sanctuary of Thy glory. I beseech Thee, O my Lord, by Thy call whereby they who recognized Thy unity have sought the shadow of Thy most gracious providence, and the sincere have fled far from themselves unto Thy name, the Most Exalted, the All-Glorious, through which Thy verses were sent down, and Thy word fulfilled, and Thy proof manifested, and the sun of Thy beauty risen, and Thy testimony established, and Thy signs uncovered,—I beseech Thee to grant that I may be numbered with them that have quaffed the wine that is life indeed from the hands of Thy gracious providence, and have rid themselves, in Thy path, of all attachment to Thy creatures, and been so inebriated with Thy manifold wisdom that they hastened to the field of sacrifice with Thy praise on their lips and Thy remembrance in their hearts. Send down, also, upon me, O my God, that which will wash me from anything that is not of Thee, and deliver me from Thine enemies who have disbelieved in Thy signs.

Potent art Thou to do what Thou willest. No God is there beside Thee, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting.

copied from.....http://www.bahaiprayers.org/sacrifice3.htm

Blessings

I have to ask myself why do I keep this post.. why do I have a need to write these things..
hmm that is a tough one..
ever since i was young i have always had so much to say.. so much stuff going on in my head and no where to keep them. I have too many thoughts, to much thinking..

it makes good reading.... going through and seeing how far i have come, where i have come from and if i am ( my standards) on course or if i am still letting my body/desires take control of me.

Indeed i have to be thankful..
Most assuredly i have to be thankful
I have to be thankful for The Good Lord has not failed me
He has never let me down, He has never forsaken me..
And I am thankful..
sometimes, when life seems bleak and we cant see what is past out nose stub
sometimes when all seems lost and we have no where to turn
The Good Lord does provide and shines on us a light of hope.

that is what God has done for me..
It took me till this evenings prayer to remember that.. it is I asking these things my lord..
I have asked thee o Lord, keep me away from evil and keep evil away from me
Keep me away from sins and keep sin away from me
keep me away from evil people and keep evil people away from me


tis a hard road, i know but the end results are the best..
so while the outward view may look bleak and unbecoming
I have to remember that which i am seeking
to be closer to my God, to worship God better i guess
I will still always be the "crazy thought tutu2, who says as she sees it..
I will still always be the inward tutu who reflects on everything
i will still always be the searching tutu, looking to improve her stance
In all perspective, I have to be thankful.

Everything comes from God, everything for me is a lesson
God does provide it for me to learn and develop, to learn and improve
My people i have many cause to be grateful..

Because like i say, The good Lord has never let me down,
But has provided for me and provided a-plenty
So even when chips are down, My lord, let me as ever remember thee.. and let me always remember to thank thee, for all that you do for me, for all that you mean to me and for all that you are to me.. Let me never for once forget the blessings you have bestowed on me, day after day..let me be able to say thank you Lord and know that it is from my heart..
For indeed, the good Lord has been bounteous unto me..

Highway

You know that feeling when you just feel like standing in the middle of the road and then you just hear the horns and shouts of cars and people passing by checking for you to move away..
Everything is a blur and the noise stops just short of penetrating your drums.. In short, you dont want to hear so you have blocked everyone out hence you are not concerned of the commotion and buzzle hapenning around you.
All you want to do is just continue walking on the road as far as your legs can carry you.

you stop briefly and glance back to see how far you have come,... Then it hits you...
You have taken this route for a reason, you want to get hit..