Thursday, 16 September 2010

6:51 - And preach with this (Quran) to those who reverence the summoning before their Lord - they have none beside Him as a Lord and Master..

6:51
And preach with this (Quran) to those who reverence the summoning before their Lord -they have none beside Him as a Lord and Master, nor an intercessor - that they may attain salvation.

6:52
And do not dismiss those who implore their Lord day and night, devoting themselves to Him alone. You are not responsible for their reckoning, nor are they responsible for your reckoning. If you dismiss them, you will be a transgressor.

6:53
We thus test the people by each other, to let them say (mockingly), "Are these the people among us who are blessed by GOD?" Is GOD not aware of the appreciative ones?

6:54
When those who believe in our revelations come to you, you shall say, "Salãmun `Alaykum (Peace be upon you). Your Lord has decreed that mercy is His attribute. Thus, anyone among you who commits a transgression out of ignorance, and repents thereafter and reforms, then He is Forgiving, Most Merciful."

6:55
We thus explain the revelations, and point out the ways of the wicked.

6:56
Say, "I am forbidden from worshiping what you worship besides GOD." Say, "I will not follow your opinions. Otherwise, I will go astray, and not be guided."


todays prose is the surah of the moment which is surah Hud...
in particular is the couple of verses

as usual the parenthesis are the translators own inferences and i have used rk translation.

11:25 - We sent Noah to his people, saying, "I come to you as a clear warner.

11:26 - "You shall not worship except GOD. I fear for you the retribution of a painful day."

11:27 - The leaders who disbelieved among his people said, "We see that you are no more than a human being like us, and we see that the first people to follow you are the worst among us. We see that you do not possess any advantage over us. Indeed, we think you are liars."

11:28 - He said, "O my people, what if I have a solid proof from my Lord? What if He has blessed me out of His mercy, though you cannot see it? Are we going to force you to believe therein?

11:29 - "O my people, I do not ask you for any money; my wage comes only from GOD. I am not dismissing those who believed; they will meet their Lord (and He alone will judge them). I see that you are ignorant people.

11:30 - "O my people, who can support me against GOD, if I dismiss them? Would you not take heed?

11:31 - "I do not claim that I possess the treasures of GOD, nor do I know the future, nor do I claim to be an angel. Nor do I say to those despised by your eyes that GOD will not bestow any blessings upon them. GOD knows best what is in their innermost thoughts. (If I did this,) I would be a transgressor."

11:32 - They said, "O Noah, you have argued with us, and kept on arguing. We challenge you to bring the doom you threaten us with, if you are truthful."

11:33 - He said, "GOD is the One who brings it to you, if He so wills, then you cannot escape.

11:34 - "Even if I advised you, my advice cannot benefit you if it is GOD's will to send you astray. He is your Lord, and to Him you will be returned."

11:35 - If they say, "He made up this story," then say, "If I made it up, then I am responsible for my crime, and I am innocent of any crime you commit."

11:36 - Noah was inspired: "No more of your people are going to believe, beyond those who already believe. Do not be saddened by their actions.

11:37 - "Build the ark under our watchful eyes, and with our inspiration, and do not implore Me on behalf of those who have transgressed; they are destined to drown."

11:38 - While he was building the ark, whenever some of his people passed by him they laughed at him. He said, "You may be laughing at us, but we are laughing at you, just as you are laughing.

11:39 - "You will surely find out who will suffer a shameful retribution, and incur an everlasting punishment."

11:40 - When our judgment came, and the atmosphere boiled over, we said, "Carry on it a pair of each kind, together with your family, except those who are condemned. Carry with you those who have believed," and only a few have believed with him.

11:41 - He said, "Come on board. In the name of GOD shall be its sailing, and its mooring. My Lord is Forgiver, Most Merciful."

11:42 - As it sailed with them in waves like hills, Noah called his son, who was isolated: "O my son, come ride with us; do not be with the disbelievers."

11:43 - He said, "I will take refuge on top of a hill, to protect me from the water." He said, "Nothing can protect anyone today from GOD's judgment; only those worthy of His mercy (will be saved)." The waves separated them, and he was among those who drowned.

11:44 - It was proclaimed: "O earth, swallow your water," and "O sky, cease." The water then subsided; the judgment was fulfilled. The ark finally rested on the hills of Judea. It was then proclaimed: "The transgressors have perished."

11:45 - Noah implored his Lord: "My Lord, my son is a member of my family, and Your promise is the truth. You are the wisest of the wise."

11:46 - He said, "O Noah, he is not of your family. It is unrighteous to ask Me for something you do not know. I enlighten you, lest you be like the ignorant."

11:47 - He said, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You, lest I implore You again for something I do not know. Unless You forgive me, and have mercy on me, I will be with the losers."

11:48 - It was proclaimed: "O Noah, disembark, with peace and blessings upon you, and upon nations who will descend from your companions. As for the other nations descending from you, we will bless them for awhile, then commit them to painful retribution."

11:49 - This is news from the past that we reveal to you. You had no knowledge about them - neither you, nor your people - before this. Therefore, be patient. The ultimate victory belongs to the righteous.



the question that arose within me is - "who is anyone to dismiss someone else who says that they believe in God"

my thoughts on belief is that it is not for me to judge regarding anothers one belief - but rather i can make choices regarding shared linkages btw what we believe or not believe in - that choice may lead me to not to associate emotionally with them based on large differences in our paths but it will never stop me from treating them on the level as i would anyone else.

so the question underlying question is - who am i to say that you are a disbeliever?

i dont think i have that right in any event - all i know is that i do not worship what you worship nor do you worship what i worship. to me is my religion and to you is yours.

If on the outscale you say that you believe in the same thing that i believe in but you do other different things different to me - then all i know is that with God is the judgement over us all - he knows our innermost and outermost intentions - Each of us choses which direction to follow - we should race towards righteousness - afterall we all return back to the Creator.

my other thoughts are that life and faith is not one glove fits all. whilst we are all equal in the sight of God - we all have different paths/destinies to follow.
On the large scale the system of God never changes it is the same time after time
On another level - it is presented through our lives in different formats - only the knowledgeable can see it for what it really is - the same.

so what is it to me if someone who says he believes as i do - does something else ? the answer is nothing. i only worry about my own neck - God guides whomever he wills, I cannot be responsible for someone else's guidance - God is in charge of that and He guides whomever he wills - I only pray that God guides me to the straight path.

so why all the arguements that people like to have regarding faith - each person trying to convince the other that their path is the best...

do we forget that not all fingers are equal?
do we forget that God is in control?
do we forget patience, tolerance, understandi

all answers to important questions are found in the scripture.... ( see my thoughts on Say/Qul) why argue, why insist, why be agressive?? i dont understand all of this.

anything else is up to personal interpretation but precedent had been set regarding the responses - afterall intent is the deciding factor and God knows those who are mischevious or not...

my step mum used to say that one thing God did not give anyone is the abolity to see the intent of the other - all we see are outward actions and i know from experience that sometimes the outward actions bear no semblance to the true intention that lies within...

we all act like we are responsible for peoples guidance - we act like it is up to us to show them the way - we can only show them our way - God will show them THE WAY. with God is the knowledge and insight regarding each person and where they will end up -


Everyone works in accordance with his belief, and your Lord knows best which ones are guided in the right path - 17:84

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