i ency people of the time of the prophets.. cos they had stuff direct. they has salat, moses had salat, jesus has salat, david had salat, solomon had salat, abraham had salat,
is this salat different or is it the same salat that we all have been decreed to do.. yes we are different tribes/races, we may have different rites.. but is salat the same or different....
i remember reading somewhere that somewhere some old orthodox jews perform their prayer bowing and prostrating and they perform 3 times a day..
omo this life is funny....the quran is clear.. it will always be clear...
faith is addresses, worshipping one God only
salat IS Addressed. gives timings and names.
Zakat is addressed.. gives what to do, what to give...
by no means is the subject of contention addressed by appendices or footnotes, but rather it is in the content of the Quran... God be praised that His word is the truth and will always stand out.... above everything else...
i dont know anything again and my head is spinning... the question at hand is to be objective without agenda or motive and gw try to arrive at the logical truth...
the worb maghrib and asr are both in the quran as far as i am aware now but i dont think they are used connection with salat, but they are words in their own right.. maghrib is found in surah 18:86 , 2:177 as well as others and asr is found in surat Asr amongst others.... maghrib is translated west, which is a direction.... while asr is translated as afternoon...
FATS: like i said previously, the words with salat attached to them is salat fajr in 14:58 and salat isha in same surah... and salat wusta in 2:238.. those as far as i know and i have found so far are the ones that are said by name....
FATS: the bone of contention now is what is the translation is wusta.. some say its middle, some say its best.. if it is middle, then it implies that salat of a day os an odd number with wusta being the middle prayer... if if it is best then. means this salat is hghly favoured..
F.ATS :here are 2 ways to look at this... i feel
F.ATS: one.. the quran is complete. in that case and keeping with the word of God, it only mentions 3 salat by name.. that is the truth as far as i can see... i have not found salat dhur. or salat asr or salat maghrib....
F.ATS: two. we recieve commands from God thru messeengers.. and if the messenger said it is 5 times a day then i guess it is.. howver if i am honest i am not that convinced.. my feeling is that salat is something that has been before the time of mohammed, as it was prescribed to the other prophets.. so it is someting that has been.. so i guess if we can go back in history we can try to find the answers... no one is above mistake/error. far cry from me being the one to point fingers cos i daily make mistakes myself.. The truth is always evident and the truth is there in print in the Quran.. however note that we are going by translated version... so how much of a gap is the translated version from the arabic meanning.. and does this add to or subtract from our understanding..
F.A TS: for me using the quran alone..it is 3 prayers, fajr, at dawn isha at sunset heading towards night, and wusta in middle when sun declines from highest point at noon until it reaches sunset...
F.A TS: its a tough one, my dear, let me know what you think..
F.A TS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah check this site out for more info on the names of salat see if it helps...
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