i was reading this chapter and the last verse struck my interest....
I seek refuge with thee O lord.. you are Seer, Hearer
Chapter 48 verse 29
Khalifa
Muhammad - the messenger of GOD - and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD's blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe, and lead a righteous life, forgiveness and a great recompense.
Yusuf Ali
Muhammad is the apostle of God; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from God and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. God has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
Pickthal
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.
Shakir
Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.
Sher Ali
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are hard against the disbelievers but tender among themselves. Thou seest them bowing and prostrating themselves in Prayer, seeking Allah's grace and pleasure. Their marks are upon their faces, being the traces of prostrations. This is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is like unto a seed-produce that sends forth its sprout, then makes it strong; it then becomes stout, and stands firm on its stem, delighting the sowers - That HE may cause the disbelievers to boil with rage at the sight of them. Allah has promised, unto those of them, who believe and do good works, forgiveness and a great reward.
"Progressive Muslims"
Muhammad is the messenger of God, and those who are with him are severe against the rejecters, but merciful between themselves. You see them yielding and submitting, they seek God's blessings and approval. Their distinction is in their faces, as a result of submitting. Such is their example in the Torah. And their example in the Injeel is like a plant which shoots out and becomes strong and thick and it stands straight on its stem, pleasing to the farmers that He may enrage the rejecters with them. God promises those among them who believe and do good works a forgiveness and a great reward.
the part that struck my interest was the part about prostration and the torah...
you see, when the 3 vs 5 times prayer issue began, i started to look into prayer practices of all religions and came upon the jews doing a 3 times daily prayer... but nonetheless, it was imprinted in my mind that the practice of prayer is not new because in the Quran... it was mentioned that moses was told to observe Salat, as was jesus as well....hmmmm
Anyhow, this time i looked and found a daily prayer called aleinu which i guess is done 3 times daily.
while reading though what i had found... i then read that the practice of prostrating during this prayer was something that was in practice yonder years but some sects within jdaism have discarded it... while some sects only prostrate during major festival prayers... that got me thinking so i googles aleinu and i found the prayer...
now i am sorry but i have to gush here at my amazement for this prrayer....
i was struck by its words... simple effective and praise for the most high.
so here it is
English translation
Transliteration
Hebrew
1
It is our duty to praise the Master of all,
Aleinu l'shabeach la'Adon hakol
עָלֵינוּ לְשַׁבֵּחַ לַאֲדוֹן הַכֹּל,
2
to acclaim the greatness of the One whoforms all creation,
latet gedulah l'yotzer b'reishit,
לָתֵת גְּדֻלָּה לְיוֹצֵר בְּרֵאשִׁית,
3
For God did not make us like the nations of other lands,
sh'lo asanu k'goyei ha'aratzot,
שֶׁלֹּא עָשָׂנוּ כְּגוֹיֵי הָאֲרָצוֹת,
4
and did not make us the same as other families of the Earth.
v'lo samanu k'mish'p'chot ha'adamah,
וְלֹא שָׂמָנוּ כְּמִשְׁפְּחוֹת הָאֲדָמָה.
5
God did not place us in the same situations as others,
shelo sam chel'qenu kahem,
שֶׁלֹּא שָׂם חֶלְקֵנוּ כָּהֶם,
6
and our destiny is not the same as anyone else's.
v'goralenu k'khol hamonam.
.וְגוֹרָלֵנוּ כְּכָל הֲמוֹנָם
Some congregations outside of Israel omit:
7
(For they bow to vanity and emptiness
(Sh'hem mish'tachavim l'hevel variq
(שֶׁהֵם מִשְׁתַּחֲוִים לְהֶבֶל וָרִיק,
8
and pray to a god which helps not.)
umit'pal'lim el el lo yoshia)
וּמִתְפַּלְּלִים אֶל אֵל לֹא יוֹשִׁיעַ.)
9
And we bend our knees, and bow down,and give thanks,
Va'anaḥnu qor`im, umishtaḥavim umodim,
וַאֲנַחְנוּ כֹּרעִים,
10
before the King, the King of Kings,
lif'nei Melekh, Mal'khei haM'lakhim,
לִפְנֵי מֶלֶךְ מַלְכֵי הַמְּלָכִים
11
the Holy One, Blessed is He.
haQadosh barukh Hu.
הַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא.
12
The One who spread out the heavens,and made the foundations of the Earth,
Shehu noteh shamayim, v'yosed aretz,
שֶׁהוּא נוֹטֶה שָׁמַיִם וְיֹסֵד אָרֶץ,
13
and whose precious dwelling isin the heavens above,
umoshav y'qaro bashamayim mima'al,
וּמוֹשַׁב יְקָרוֹ בַּשָּׁמַיִם מִמַּעַל,
14
and whose powerful Presence isin the highest heights.
ushkhinat uzo begav'hei m'romim,
וּשְׁכִינַת עֻזּוֹ בְּגָבְהֵי מְרוֹמִים.
15
He is our God, there is none else.
Hu Eloheinu ein od,
הוּא אֱלֹהֵינוּ וְאֵין עוֹד,
16
Our King is truth, and nothing else compares.
emet mal'kenu, efes zulato,
אֱמֶת מַלְכֵּנוּ אֶפֶס זוּלָתוֹ.
17
As it is written in Your Torah:
kakatuv baToratecha:
כַּכָּתוּב בַּתּוֹרָה:
18
"And you shall know today,and take to heart,
v'yada'ta hayom,vahashevota el l'vavekha.
וְיָדַעְתָּ הַיּוֹם וַהֲשֵׁבֹתָ אֶל לְבָבֶךָ,
19
that Adonai is the only God,
Ki Adonai, hu haElohim,
כִּי יי הוּא הָאֱלֹהִים
20
in the heavens above
bashamayim mi ma`al,
בַּשָּׁמַיִם מִמַּעַל
21
and on Earth below.There is no other."
v'al ha'aretz mitachat. Ein od.
וְעַל הָאָרֶץ מִתָּחַת. אֵין עוֹד
hmmmm.so for me i was struck by a couple of words....
That Adonai is the only God in the heavens above and on earth below. there is no other....
Now..compared to where the Quran states La ilaha illalahu... there is no other god but God...
can you see the similarity...
in fact of you have read the quran.. you should see lods od similarities in this aleinu and what is in the Quran...
so back to this concept of One God.... it is one God, the same God that we all worship... cant we all see that? and it is about the worship of One God alone, as was before as is now as it should be now... all this practices of God plus messenger everytime.. is not concurrent with what is in the Quran... nor is it concurrent with what was in the earlier scriptures....
hmmm
anyhoe back to another point i was then again inspired to remember another part in the quran.. where specicically God was speaking to judaism...
I seek refuge with thee O Lord.. you provide inspiration and guide to the truth
chapter 62:6
Khalifa
Say, "O you who are Jewish, if you claim that you are GOD's chosen, to the exclusion of all other people, then you should long for death if you are truthful!"
Yusuf Ali
Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to God, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"
Pickthal
Say (O Muhammad): O ye who are Jews! If ye claim that ye are favoured of Allah apart from (all) mankind, then long for death if ye are truthful.
Shakir
Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful.
Sher Ali
Say, `O ye who are Jews, if you claim that you are the friends of Allah to the exclusion of all other peoples, then wish for death, if, indeed, you are truthful.
"Progressive Muslims"
Say: "O you who are Jewish, if you claim that you are God's chosen, to the exclusion of all other people, then you should long for death if you are truthful!"
(Parenthesis are the translators own inference...)
Are you seeing the link.....
one other verse.
Khalifa
We have sent down the Torah, containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the Jewish prophets, as well as the rabbis and the priests, as dictated to them in GOD's scripture, and as witnessed by them. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the disbelievers.
Yusuf Ali
It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
Pickthal
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.
Shakir
Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.
Sher Ali
Surely, WE sent down the Torah wherein was guidance and light. By it did the Prophets, who were obedient to US, judge for the Jews, as did the godly people and those learned in the Law, because they were required to preserve the Book of Allah, and because they were guardians over it. Therefore fear not men but fear ME; and barter not MY signs for a paltry price. And whoso judges not by that which Allah has sent down, these it is who are the disbelievers.
"Progressive Muslims"
We have sent down the Torah, in it is guidance and a light; the prophets who have surrendered judged with it for those who are Jews, as well as the rabbis, and the priests, for what they were entrusted of God's Scripture, and they were witness over. So do not fear the people but fear Me; and do not purchase with My revelations a cheap price. And whoever does not judge with what God Has sent down, then these are the rejecters.
Now tell me that you still want to be mentioning one of Gods messengers in your prayer to God and you still are praying to the messengers to interceed for you... despite of what is revealed in the Quran... that you still seek guidance from other than the quran and look to scholars and leaders to tell you about your religion despite that the Quran is clear in content and intention.
If you trust in God you will hold onto God alone..believe in God alone.. dedicate all Prayers to God alone... it is God that we should be singing his praises.. It is God that we should reverence.. it is to God direct that we should direct out prayers to, as it is God that knows us...that created us.. that knows our heart...
the position of any of Gods messengers with God,, they earned for themselves due to the fact that they obeyed their God and held onto their God alone despite of the incriminations they faced...
is there any sense in taking advantage of this.. when we have not earned or even come close to that level of reverence... is that why we choose to sing praises of the messengers... when we know they are dead and cannot respond to us... is that why we go to their graves and pray to their corpse.. when we know they are gone and cannot respond to us...
the human being is lazy....
i am a human being and i know....
while some muslims are here, singing mohammed mohammed mohammed only mohammed,,, to the dis-inclusion of other of Gods prophets....and we have the effontry to beguile ous christian brothers who go about singing jesus, jesus jesus.. to the detriment of other of Gods prophets..
Is it not the same thing...
granted one thinks that mohammed is the key to being saved by god, by associating patnership with God in the addition of mohammeds name to where Gods name is called upon and the other may think jesus is the key to being saved and that Jesus is god...
honestly some muslims are no better than the christians are no better than some jews who invented other laws above that which God revealed to them... infact this is a trait amongst all three...
remember this
alhamdullilahi lazi lam yatakiz waladan
wa lam yakun lahu sharikun fii mulk
wa lam yakun lahu waliyu minna dzullii
Praise be to God who has never begotten a son
nor does He have a partner in his kingship
nor does he need an ally out of weakness...
I seek refuge with thee O lord.. you are Seer, Hearer
Chapter 48 verse 29
Khalifa
Muhammad - the messenger of GOD - and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD's blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe, and lead a righteous life, forgiveness and a great recompense.
Yusuf Ali
Muhammad is the apostle of God; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from God and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. God has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
Pickthal
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.
Shakir
Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.
Sher Ali
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are hard against the disbelievers but tender among themselves. Thou seest them bowing and prostrating themselves in Prayer, seeking Allah's grace and pleasure. Their marks are upon their faces, being the traces of prostrations. This is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is like unto a seed-produce that sends forth its sprout, then makes it strong; it then becomes stout, and stands firm on its stem, delighting the sowers - That HE may cause the disbelievers to boil with rage at the sight of them. Allah has promised, unto those of them, who believe and do good works, forgiveness and a great reward.
"Progressive Muslims"
Muhammad is the messenger of God, and those who are with him are severe against the rejecters, but merciful between themselves. You see them yielding and submitting, they seek God's blessings and approval. Their distinction is in their faces, as a result of submitting. Such is their example in the Torah. And their example in the Injeel is like a plant which shoots out and becomes strong and thick and it stands straight on its stem, pleasing to the farmers that He may enrage the rejecters with them. God promises those among them who believe and do good works a forgiveness and a great reward.
the part that struck my interest was the part about prostration and the torah...
you see, when the 3 vs 5 times prayer issue began, i started to look into prayer practices of all religions and came upon the jews doing a 3 times daily prayer... but nonetheless, it was imprinted in my mind that the practice of prayer is not new because in the Quran... it was mentioned that moses was told to observe Salat, as was jesus as well....hmmmm
Anyhow, this time i looked and found a daily prayer called aleinu which i guess is done 3 times daily.
while reading though what i had found... i then read that the practice of prostrating during this prayer was something that was in practice yonder years but some sects within jdaism have discarded it... while some sects only prostrate during major festival prayers... that got me thinking so i googles aleinu and i found the prayer...
now i am sorry but i have to gush here at my amazement for this prrayer....
i was struck by its words... simple effective and praise for the most high.
so here it is
English translation
Transliteration
Hebrew
1
It is our duty to praise the Master of all,
Aleinu l'shabeach la'Adon hakol
עָלֵינוּ לְשַׁבֵּחַ לַאֲדוֹן הַכֹּל,
2
to acclaim the greatness of the One whoforms all creation,
latet gedulah l'yotzer b'reishit,
לָתֵת גְּדֻלָּה לְיוֹצֵר בְּרֵאשִׁית,
3
For God did not make us like the nations of other lands,
sh'lo asanu k'goyei ha'aratzot,
שֶׁלֹּא עָשָׂנוּ כְּגוֹיֵי הָאֲרָצוֹת,
4
and did not make us the same as other families of the Earth.
v'lo samanu k'mish'p'chot ha'adamah,
וְלֹא שָׂמָנוּ כְּמִשְׁפְּחוֹת הָאֲדָמָה.
5
God did not place us in the same situations as others,
shelo sam chel'qenu kahem,
שֶׁלֹּא שָׂם חֶלְקֵנוּ כָּהֶם,
6
and our destiny is not the same as anyone else's.
v'goralenu k'khol hamonam.
.וְגוֹרָלֵנוּ כְּכָל הֲמוֹנָם
Some congregations outside of Israel omit:
7
(For they bow to vanity and emptiness
(Sh'hem mish'tachavim l'hevel variq
(שֶׁהֵם מִשְׁתַּחֲוִים לְהֶבֶל וָרִיק,
8
and pray to a god which helps not.)
umit'pal'lim el el lo yoshia)
וּמִתְפַּלְּלִים אֶל אֵל לֹא יוֹשִׁיעַ.)
9
And we bend our knees, and bow down,and give thanks,
Va'anaḥnu qor`im, umishtaḥavim umodim,
וַאֲנַחְנוּ כֹּרעִים,
10
before the King, the King of Kings,
lif'nei Melekh, Mal'khei haM'lakhim,
לִפְנֵי מֶלֶךְ מַלְכֵי הַמְּלָכִים
11
the Holy One, Blessed is He.
haQadosh barukh Hu.
הַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא.
12
The One who spread out the heavens,and made the foundations of the Earth,
Shehu noteh shamayim, v'yosed aretz,
שֶׁהוּא נוֹטֶה שָׁמַיִם וְיֹסֵד אָרֶץ,
13
and whose precious dwelling isin the heavens above,
umoshav y'qaro bashamayim mima'al,
וּמוֹשַׁב יְקָרוֹ בַּשָּׁמַיִם מִמַּעַל,
14
and whose powerful Presence isin the highest heights.
ushkhinat uzo begav'hei m'romim,
וּשְׁכִינַת עֻזּוֹ בְּגָבְהֵי מְרוֹמִים.
15
He is our God, there is none else.
Hu Eloheinu ein od,
הוּא אֱלֹהֵינוּ וְאֵין עוֹד,
16
Our King is truth, and nothing else compares.
emet mal'kenu, efes zulato,
אֱמֶת מַלְכֵּנוּ אֶפֶס זוּלָתוֹ.
17
As it is written in Your Torah:
kakatuv baToratecha:
כַּכָּתוּב בַּתּוֹרָה:
18
"And you shall know today,and take to heart,
v'yada'ta hayom,vahashevota el l'vavekha.
וְיָדַעְתָּ הַיּוֹם וַהֲשֵׁבֹתָ אֶל לְבָבֶךָ,
19
that Adonai is the only God,
Ki Adonai, hu haElohim,
כִּי יי הוּא הָאֱלֹהִים
20
in the heavens above
bashamayim mi ma`al,
בַּשָּׁמַיִם מִמַּעַל
21
and on Earth below.There is no other."
v'al ha'aretz mitachat. Ein od.
וְעַל הָאָרֶץ מִתָּחַת. אֵין עוֹד
hmmmm.so for me i was struck by a couple of words....
That Adonai is the only God in the heavens above and on earth below. there is no other....
Now..compared to where the Quran states La ilaha illalahu... there is no other god but God...
can you see the similarity...
in fact of you have read the quran.. you should see lods od similarities in this aleinu and what is in the Quran...
so back to this concept of One God.... it is one God, the same God that we all worship... cant we all see that? and it is about the worship of One God alone, as was before as is now as it should be now... all this practices of God plus messenger everytime.. is not concurrent with what is in the Quran... nor is it concurrent with what was in the earlier scriptures....
hmmm
anyhoe back to another point i was then again inspired to remember another part in the quran.. where specicically God was speaking to judaism...
I seek refuge with thee O Lord.. you provide inspiration and guide to the truth
chapter 62:6
Khalifa
Say, "O you who are Jewish, if you claim that you are GOD's chosen, to the exclusion of all other people, then you should long for death if you are truthful!"
Yusuf Ali
Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to God, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"
Pickthal
Say (O Muhammad): O ye who are Jews! If ye claim that ye are favoured of Allah apart from (all) mankind, then long for death if ye are truthful.
Shakir
Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful.
Sher Ali
Say, `O ye who are Jews, if you claim that you are the friends of Allah to the exclusion of all other peoples, then wish for death, if, indeed, you are truthful.
"Progressive Muslims"
Say: "O you who are Jewish, if you claim that you are God's chosen, to the exclusion of all other people, then you should long for death if you are truthful!"
(Parenthesis are the translators own inference...)
Are you seeing the link.....
one other verse.
Khalifa
We have sent down the Torah, containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the Jewish prophets, as well as the rabbis and the priests, as dictated to them in GOD's scripture, and as witnessed by them. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the disbelievers.
Yusuf Ali
It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
Pickthal
Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.
Shakir
Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.
Sher Ali
Surely, WE sent down the Torah wherein was guidance and light. By it did the Prophets, who were obedient to US, judge for the Jews, as did the godly people and those learned in the Law, because they were required to preserve the Book of Allah, and because they were guardians over it. Therefore fear not men but fear ME; and barter not MY signs for a paltry price. And whoso judges not by that which Allah has sent down, these it is who are the disbelievers.
"Progressive Muslims"
We have sent down the Torah, in it is guidance and a light; the prophets who have surrendered judged with it for those who are Jews, as well as the rabbis, and the priests, for what they were entrusted of God's Scripture, and they were witness over. So do not fear the people but fear Me; and do not purchase with My revelations a cheap price. And whoever does not judge with what God Has sent down, then these are the rejecters.
Now tell me that you still want to be mentioning one of Gods messengers in your prayer to God and you still are praying to the messengers to interceed for you... despite of what is revealed in the Quran... that you still seek guidance from other than the quran and look to scholars and leaders to tell you about your religion despite that the Quran is clear in content and intention.
If you trust in God you will hold onto God alone..believe in God alone.. dedicate all Prayers to God alone... it is God that we should be singing his praises.. It is God that we should reverence.. it is to God direct that we should direct out prayers to, as it is God that knows us...that created us.. that knows our heart...
the position of any of Gods messengers with God,, they earned for themselves due to the fact that they obeyed their God and held onto their God alone despite of the incriminations they faced...
is there any sense in taking advantage of this.. when we have not earned or even come close to that level of reverence... is that why we choose to sing praises of the messengers... when we know they are dead and cannot respond to us... is that why we go to their graves and pray to their corpse.. when we know they are gone and cannot respond to us...
the human being is lazy....
i am a human being and i know....
while some muslims are here, singing mohammed mohammed mohammed only mohammed,,, to the dis-inclusion of other of Gods prophets....and we have the effontry to beguile ous christian brothers who go about singing jesus, jesus jesus.. to the detriment of other of Gods prophets..
Is it not the same thing...
granted one thinks that mohammed is the key to being saved by god, by associating patnership with God in the addition of mohammeds name to where Gods name is called upon and the other may think jesus is the key to being saved and that Jesus is god...
honestly some muslims are no better than the christians are no better than some jews who invented other laws above that which God revealed to them... infact this is a trait amongst all three...
remember this
alhamdullilahi lazi lam yatakiz waladan
wa lam yakun lahu sharikun fii mulk
wa lam yakun lahu waliyu minna dzullii
Praise be to God who has never begotten a son
nor does He have a partner in his kingship
nor does he need an ally out of weakness...
